American immigrants from Sternberg Brandenburg
Koberstein families that immigrated to America from Sternberg, Brandenburg, Prussia area near Koltchen

Recently I ordered microfilms for Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia and found three Koberstein records. This is the birth location I found for Ernest R. below (Family Search: L77S-RBM). Here are the records I found. Item No. 13 - Hermann Koberstein was born to August and Emilie nee Koberstein Koberstein.  The very unusual thing her is that Emilie had the maiden name (nee) of Koberstein and married August Koberstein. He was born at Dammbusch, Sternberg, Brandenburg, Prussia. At this website you can see its location with modern Polish name. He died on March 29, 1882 at Waldau, Flatlow, West Prussia at the age of ten (this age may need better translation). Calculated birth year would be 1872.
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/GOV:DAMSCHJO72NO
Here is a close up on google map of Debokierz (Polish city name for Dammbusch) relative to Koltchen (Kolczyn in polish).  Dammbusch is in the Kreis of Koltchen parish, Lutheran (Evangelical).


This location is on my website near Koltchen
Item No. 65 Ernst Hermann Koberstein was born to August and Emilie nee Koberstein. The very unusual thing her is that Emilie had the maiden name (nee) of Koberstein and married August Koberstein. He was born at Waldaudorf on December 9, 1881. Since this record was from a microfilm from Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia I have to assume this Waldaudorf is in the same area.  It appears that Hermann was born in Koltchen Kreis and they moved to Waldau, Flatlow, West Prussia.   This seems like a match to Ernest R. Koberstein in the family below with some minor variations.  The fact that the parents have the same name and even Emilie has a maiden name of Koberstein is a strong indication they are the same.
Item No. 6 – Bertha Koberstein was born to August and Emilie nee Koberstein Koberstein.  .  The very unusual thing her is that Emilie had the maiden name (nee) of Koberstein and married August Koberstein.  She was born at Danibusch, Sternberg, Brandenburg, Prussia.  The transcription of Danibusch looks correct, but it is so similar to Dammbusch I have to wonder if they are in fact the same place.  If they are it would make the children fit together better.  The death date is February 2, 1881 at the age of one year.  The calculated birth year is about 1880.
This can be tabulated as:


Father: August Koberstein

Mother: Emilie nee Koberstein

 

Birth Date

Birth Location

Death Date

Death Location

  1. Hermann

1872

Dammbusch

29 Mar 1882

Waldau

  1. Bertha 

1880

-

2 Feb 1881

Danibusch

  1. Ernst Hermann

9 Dec 1881

Wadaudorf

-

-

Item No. 47 Martha Emilie Elizabeth Koberstein was born to Heinrich and Emilie nee Wurfel Koberstein.  She was born at Waldauk Flatau Kreis on September 25, 1881. She is a part of the ernst family line in the Koberstein surname website. She is the daughter of Henry (americanized form of Heinrich) William Koberstein and Amelia Augusta Werfel. This record is another link with both families being in Waldau at about the same time frame. and imigrating to Nebraska (although they were in Illinois for a short while before taking up permanent residence in Nebraska. Martha is KZV5-CCQ in Family Search.


Probably the August and Emilie nee Koberstein Koberstein in these records is the same as the August and Emilie Koberstein in the AugustND family line. This family is in Family Search. Here is a list of the family:
August Koberstein was born 2 December 1840 in Brandenburg, Germany
Emilie Koberstein was born on 27 January 1842 in Hammerwiesen, Oststernberg, Brandenburg, Prussia, Germany (note that her maiden name is listed as Koberstein, same as her husband and the couple above. This leads me to believe that they are the same couple.
Children:

  1.  Yata or Ida was born in Germany in 1868.
  2. Gustav August Jr. was born on April 1870.
  3. Anna A. was born on 1873 in Germany.
  4. August Hermann Koberstein was born on 27 June 1876 in Faldan, Germany
  5. Ernest R. was born on 9 Dec 1881 in Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia, Prussia, Germany

This couple immigrated to America along with three of their children Anna, August, and Ernst in 1888 landing at Baltimore MD on the ship Hermann.
A key record for the birth year of ernest is a delayed birth registration below.  It shows December 9, 1880, however the Find a grave record shows December 9, 1881, Social Security Death Index is December 9, 1880, The WWII registration card is December 9, 1881, The 1930 and 1940 census records show the year as 1881, but they are only estimates based on the date of the census was taken and his birth date.  Since the birthday is in December and the census was taken before that, I believe the 1881 is the birth year upon which the age given in the census was stated.  Oddly the Balitmore Maryland passenger list dated October 24, 1888 lists his age as 6.  They give a calculated birth year of of 1882. However, since I know his birth day was not until December the actual calculated year should be 1881.  Interestingly these records also give his name as Ernst, one has to believe it was changed to the more Americanized version of Ernest after they arrived.  I deduce from all these facts that 1881 is the correct year.

As another connection of this family to Sternberg I found that the birth location of Emilie of Hammerwiesen is also near Koltchen.
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Hammerwiesen
Here is a google map of Wścieklice (Polish city name for Hammerwiesen) relative to Koltchen (Kolczyn in polish). Hammerwiesen is in the Kreis of Koltchen parish, Lutheran (Evangelical).

 

Key rational for relationship

I have only known this family living in North Dakota and Corvallis Oregon area.  However in the Newspaper obituary for Emilie we read, “The couple came to American in the fall of 1888 and first made their home at Hasting, Nebraska.  In 1889 they moved to Corvallis.  Nine children were born to the couple and four of them died in infancy.  The survivors are three sons, Gustav and Ernest of Corvallis, and August, of Seattle, and two daughters, Mrs Ida Keehn of Philomath and Mrs. Anna Norris of Seattle.”  This living in Hasting, Nebraska suggests a relationship with another family who had their second child born in that location.
Now in addition to this I believe there is a connection with this family and the Ernst family that immigrated to Nebraska/Colorado.  This family is in Family Search.  Here is a list of the family.
Ernst Wilhelm Koberstein was born on 1 June 1851 in Lansberg, Germany.  This Lansberg is believed to be Landsberg  (which is the city of Gorzow Wielkopolsk in Poland) the area of Brandenburg of the same name.  This is just northeast of Koltchen.

 

Paula Antonia Hoffman born on 16 APR 1862 at Lansberg, Germany (again believed to be Landsberg (Gorzow Wielkopolsk)

  1. Otto born on 1893 at Nebraska, United States
  2. Ernest Henry born on 23 January 1896 at Hastings, Adams, Nebraska, United States
  3. Paulina born on 1900 at Nebraska, United States

As per the 1910 census the parents both immigrated in 1880.  A note from Alice Gibson (granddaughter of Ernst Wilhelm Koberstein) stated, “He emmigrated from Bremen, Germany and arrived at the port of Baltimore, MD May 15, 1880”
I have been in contact with Betty Ann nee Pray Koberstein and she had her (I presume) DNA tested and I found no connection to my DNA.  I concluded from these that there is no close relationship between me and this family, but now I wonder if it was her DNA (maiden name was Pray) and not her husband Terry Koberstein.

So here is a THEORY of this connnection, I propose the H. Karl Koberstein is the common ancestor of both groups. He is know to be the oldest known person in the Nebraska Ernst family line, whereas the person of similar age in the Oregon/North Dakota branch is unknown. If they were the same this would be the connection in Koltschen. I the web page forKoltschen there is a Karl listed but the residence date is 1870 which could be given H. Karl's birth date of 1820 he would have been 50 during this record, many members of both families are listed in Koltschen and just a bit further north and over the rive in Landsberg. So of the children moved up to Waldau, Kreis Flatow, Brandenberg before immigating to America. We need more records to prove this theory.


Documentation of Pre-immigation migration of the August Koberstein family:

Here is a modern map of the migration from Dammbusch (Dębokierz in poland) and Hammerwiesen, northeast of Koltschen (Kołczyn in poland), (near Łąków in modern poland) near Koltschen (Kołczyn in poland) and Landsberg (Gorzów Wielkopolski in poland) to Gross Lossburg and Waldau (Wlosciborz and Wałdowo in poland) both of which are near Zempleburg, West Prussia (Sepolina Krajenskie in poland)

 

Pre-immigration migration route(s) documentation
August Lia and Emilie

Event

Date

Location

Source

Misc.

August Lia K. birth

12/2/1840

Brandenburg

none

 

Emilie Amarlia K. Birth

1/27/1842

Hammerwiesen, Oststernburg, Brandenburg

Newspaper obituary

Near Koltschen

August/Emilie Marr.

1/18/1867

Prussia

 

 

Yata K. birth

1868

Germany

Pass list index card

Came with Gustav K. on ship Donau

Hermann K. birth

2/28/1870

Dammbusch, Oststernburg, Brandenburg

German civil register*

Near Koltschen

Gustav August K. Jr. birth

4/1875

Germany

Marriage and census’

 

Ernst Herman K. birth

6/27/1876

Faldan, Germany

Declaration of intention of naturalize

Last foreign residence given as Groslosburg, Germany (Assume this is Gr. Lossburg near Waldau and Zempleburg

Bertha K. birth

1880

Danibusch, Sternburg, Brandenburg

German civil register**

Guess Danibusch is misspelling of Dammbusch

Hermann K. death

3/29/1880

Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia

German civil register*

Near Zempleburg

Bertha K. death

2/2/1881

Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia

German civil register**

Near Zempleburg

Ernest R. Hermann K. birth

12/9/1881

Waldaudorf, Flatow, West Prussia

German civil register

Near Zempleburg

Auguste K. death

9/11/1885

Groß Loßburg, Flatow, West Prussia

German civil register

Born 1884
Buried at Zempleburg, Flatow, West Prussia

Yata

1887

Balitmore, MD

Pass list index card

Came with Gustav K. on ship Donau

Immigration

10/24/1888

Balitmore, MD

Pass. list index card

Locksmith, age 47
(Aug., Emilie, Anna, August and Ernst)

Pass. list

Aug., Emilie, Anna, August & Ernst

 

Pre-immigration migration route(s) documentation

Karl H. Koberstein and Minnie Mary Fricka Koberstein apparently didn’t immigrate to America but his two sons did below.  There is a third proposed son that is Gustav and may be the family that immigrated to North Dakota.

  1. Heinrich William Koberstein (son of H. Karl and 1st  wife Minnie Mary Fricka)  and Amelia Augusta Werfel

Event

Date

Location

Source

Misc.

Heinrich William birth

6/9/1844

Germany

Census calculation

 

Amelia birth

7/1848

Germany

Census calculation

 

 

 

 

 

 

(1)John Carl Albert birth

5/1872

Germany

Census calculation

 

Marriage

1875

Germany

Census calculation

Maybe second marriage?

(2)Anna Liza birth

1876

Germany

Census calculation

 

(3)Frank William birth

7/5/1877

Landsburg

WWII draft registration card

Obituary on find-a-grave says near Berlin

(4)Bert H. birth

10/5/1878

Hamburg, Germany

Hamburg given in WWII draft reg. card, Germany in WWI draft reg. card

Hamburg seems inconsistent with other children birth locations of Landsburg and Waldau. Need confirmation.

(5)William Henry birth

5/18/1880

Germany

WWI draft reg. card

 

(6)Martha A. birth

9/25/1881

Waldau, Flatow, West Prussia

German civil registration

Informant name is given a Heinrich which is consistent with English, Henry

Naturalization

1872?

?

 

This year is not consistent with children birth years in Germany

Immigration

1880
1883 (1900 census)
1882 (1910 census)

Ellis Island, New York

Those Were The Days...." Vol 2; Compiled by The Phillips County
Historical Society, Holyoke, CO, copyright 1988

This year is not consistent with children birth years in Germany, but the census records are consistant.

(7)Emma A. birth

6/28/1883

Woodford, Il

 

In US by this time and other children born after this in NE

 

 

  1. Ernst Wilhelm Koberstein (son of H. Karl and 2nd wife C. Taech) and Pauline Antonia Hoffman

Event

Date

Location

Source

Misc.

Ernst Wilhelm birth

6/1/1851

Landsburg, Brandenburg

 

 

Pauline Antonia birth

4/16/1862

Landsburg, Brandenburg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(1)Richard birth

9/11/1875

 

Find a Grave

Date on headstone

 

1877

Germany

1885 Nebraska census

Date is an estimate and may be equivalent to 9/11/1875

(2)Bertha birth

4/6/1878

Germany

Unsure where it came from

 

 

1879

Germany

1885 Nebraska census

 

(3)Elisha birth

 

 

 

 

 

1880

Germany

1885 Nebraska census

 

Immigration

6/11/1881

Baltimore, MD

United States Germans to America Index

Ernst (30), Ernestine (24), Richard (4), Bertha (3) and Elise (2/12ths)

See how this changes the migration patterns for these families.